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With a unique gift for revelation of the Kingdom, Louis teaches the truth of God’s Kingdom with the manifestation of the presence. People are taken to a new level of understanding and relationship with the Holy Spirit.

“I have committed myself for the past 20 years to teach God’s people how to live with His presence. Equipping others to achieve their success and training those who are in pursuit for their destiny has kept me motivated. If you are hungry for the Lord and desire to see this world changed for His glory, join the Revolution.”

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Louis and Kathy DeSiena are the Senior Leaders of Torch Bearers Church and Apostolic Training Center in Jacksonville, Florida. In their many years of serving in the church, there was a stirring passion for higher truth. Kingdom revelation came to the DeSiena’s before it was a favorite topic at church and a fire started to burn more deeply to see this truth revealed to the church body. Ordained as a prophet and with a heart of a reformer, Louis and Kathy began VFR ministries “Voice for Restoration” in 2002 (Now Louis DeSiena Ministries). This began their ministry to see Christ’s church raised up in present truth and power. In the years following, the Lord began a work through them to prepare them for their apostolic call. The word of the Lord came to Louis to release His power in Jacksonville, and in 2007 Louis and Kathy joined hands in what is now Torch Bearers Church, a house with one focus “The Presence of God.” In His presence and with a father’s heart they continue to train spiritual sons and daughters for the Kingdom of God to be a people of power and prayer. With a fire of passion for the Lord and revival beating in their hearts, they are a generation determined to see their city, their nation, and their world changed forever.
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The Need For Wisdom and Maturity

The Need For Wisdom and Maturity

Have you every wondered why you can have an anointing and still be stuck in the process?  Why doesn’t the Lord just open up the door so you can do what you are called to do?  I’m sure Jesus could have felt the same way.  We sometimes think our Lord never had to deal with thoughts like this.  He was just so perfect, but remember he was also tempted.  He had a taste of this when He was 12 years old.  He just came off a victorious campaign of astonishing the teachings in Jerusalem.  Then His parents realized that He was missing from the caravan going home.  When they returned they were not pleased, but He was confused.  For this discussion I want to put the Scripture here.  Even though it will lengthen the post, it will make it easier if you are reading this on the go. 

Luke 2:41 His parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. 

Luke 2:42 And when He was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem according to the custom of the feast. 

Luke 2:43 When they had finished the days, as they returned, the Boy Jesus lingered behind in Jerusalem. And Joseph and His mother did not know it;

Luke 2:44 but supposing Him to have been in the company, they went a day’s journey, and sought Him among their relatives and acquaintances. 

Luke 2:45 So when they did not find Him, they returned to Jerusalem, seeking Him. 

Luke 2:46 Now so it was that after three days they found Him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the teachers, both listening to them and asking them questions. 

Luke 2:47 And all who heard Him were astonished at His understanding and answers. 

Luke 2:48 So when they saw Him, they were amazed; and His mother said to Him, “Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously.” 

Luke 2:49 And He said to them, “Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?”

Luke 2:50 But they did not understand the statement which He spoke to them. 

Luke 2:51 Then He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was subject to them, but His mother kept all these things in her heart. 

Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men. 

So here are the worried parents that they have lost the Savior of the world.  Not something you want to be remembered for.  Can you imagine their panic?  “We will never hear the end of this Joseph,” Mary might have said.  Everyone was astonished, but the parents were freaking out.  Like most of us as parents, we feel that when our kids do something we don’t like, we take it personally.  “Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously.”  Of course Jesus has another perspective.  “Why did you seek Me? Did you not know that I must be about My Father’s business?”  Oh that could set a parent off.  Mary at least has the wisdom to ponder these things in her heart.  Yet if there was ever a sign from heaven that God uses us and we can still be clueless, this is it.  If you need anymore evidence of that I have some personal stories I can share.  

For the sake of this post, I would like to get to the main point of it: That is how Jesus responded and what He learned.  I don’t believe that Jesus was out of the will of the Father, but was perfectly in it.  At the age of twelve, every young man must be quizzed in order for his maturing.  He needs to prove that he is ready to be personally responsible for himself.  Jesus has an option here.  That is, do I submit to my earthy parents, or do I go it alone? Of course the Lord makes the right decision, which as always shows us the pattern.  Jesus knows His purpose and therefore knows that the day of His anointing will come.  He knows that for His success, He will need two other areas of His life developed, beyond anointing.  They are WISDOM and MATURITY.  It says that Jesus grew in both, which then lead to favor with God.  He had a foreshadowing of His anointing while He sat there and asked and answered questions.  It was a portion of what would one day be His if He saw this whole thing through.  I love that the One who thought that He was to be about His Father’s business, now 18 years later is reluctant to reveal His glory.

John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. 

John 2:2 Now both Jesus and His disciples were invited to the wedding. 

John 2:3 And when they ran out of wine, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.” 

John 2:4 Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”

John 2:5 His mother said to the servants, “Whatever He says to you, do it.” 

Now that is wisdom.  He no longer is He willing to self promote or create His own platform.  Now the gage is what does the Father want Me to do.  By the way, if my boys talk to their mother this way I’m not sure I would be happy.  Okay, so what is the point of this.  My point is simple.  Many people are so anxious that they are going to miss the Lord that they can get out in the anointing, but lack the stature (character in maturity) or the wisdom to deal with the enemy and people.

Wisdom is something given to you by the Lord, along with circumstances to show it to you.  Another words, wisdom is proven through life, not through theory.  It is going to take circumstances for you to know wisdom in a practical way that will be useful in your life.  Don’t discount the lion and bear battles, just because no one was watching.  What most people don’t see, is what they need to see and experience.  Second is the maturity.  Maturity is wisdom manifested.  The statement “wise beyond his years,” should be a clue.  Many people want to go from the encounter to the mountain top.  Oh how I wish they would not be in such a hurry.  I have a belief that if I am spending time with the Lord, if I have fathers and mentors, it will be really hard for me to miss the day of my destiny.  Life is a journey, not an event.  It takes wisdom, time and favor to navigate through it.  I here a lot of times, when people are going through hell.  God spoke to me about my future.  Then they want to get right out and make a mess.  

I first heard this type of teaching from a great apostle of our day, Dr. Miles Monroe.  It was almost 20 years ago and he was speaking at ORU about fathers.  He explained how he had to tell sons to sit down, that the time was not right because they had other open doors.  Until they learned to keep them closed, it was too risky for them.  I know a lot of people who think that all they need is anointing, but they are wrong.  You need the anointing for miracles and in the world of ministry.  You need wisdom and maturity to stand in the battle.

Prov. 3:1 My son, do not forget my law,

    But let your heart keep my commands; 

Prov. 3:2 For length of days and long life

    And peace they will add to you. 

Prov. 3:3 Let not mercy and truth forsake you;

    Bind them around your neck,

    Write them on the tablet of your heart, 

Prov. 3:4  And so find favor and high esteem

    In the sight of God and man. 

This one of my favorite proverbs.   I have read it and read it.  I pray you will too.  God will, in due time, release you to all the glory He has destined you for.  It only requires you to seek wisdom and maturity and find the favor of God.  I pray you will do that.  Until next time, God bless.

Love Louis